Thursday, June 12, 2008

A roll forward of Hubberstey males under 40 at the 1901 census - Part 2

This Part 2 of the roll forward (John to Richard).
Part1: Aloysius to James is Here
Part 3. Robert to William is Here

Each entry starts with a line that includes the first name, place of residence (1901), birthplace, birth year, and lineage.

Lineages are numbered as:

1. Samlesbury

2. Wirksworth

3. London

4. John Hubberstey/Isabella Waiton

5. John Hubberstey/Isabella Weaton

6. John Hubberstey and Anne Swarbrick

7. Whittingham (M) – Margaret Bamber

8. Whittingham (A) – Alice Bamber



Of the 45 Hubberstey males under 40 years of age at the time of the 1901 census, 9 were named John. Obviously this makes it a bit trickier to track each one. I'll start with the 4 Johns who had second names.



John R

Bolton

Bolton

1900

1


John Robert was my grandfather, and the son of Thomas William Hubberstey. He married Dorothy Pemberton and had 2 children. To everyone he was known as "Bob" Hubberstey and lived his life in and around Great Lever in Bolton where he worked in the mills from the age of 12 until he retired from the canteen at the mill when he was 76. He and Dorothy also ran a corner shop for a number of years.

John A

Blackburn

Livesy

1879

1


John Anselm was the brother of James Hubberstey (b.1881) and Thomas Grundy Hubberstey (b.1870). He married Agnes Snape in 1904 in Blackburn. The only birth record I have found is for a John A., born 1913.

It looks like some of the birth records have been updated and now we have a John Anselm born (in Darwen) in 1913, making it a better match. There is also an entry for a Wilfrid born 1908 in the same location, so he could be a brother. Further we have a John Anselm Hubberstey marrying a Doris Stones (or Gillett) in Darwen, Blackburn in 1946.



John Jone

Preston

Preston

1875

5


John is the brother of James Thomas. Like his brother he appears to have died in 1912. He may have been the John Joseph that married Mary Louisa Florence Bibby in 1904 in Preston, as there is a John and Florence in the 1911 census in Preston.

John Joseph

Blackpool

Blackburn

1886

6


John Joseph is very likely the John Hubberstey that went to America in 1910. See post HERE.


John

Blackburn

Blackburn

1882

1


Also working off of process of elimination we have John possibly marrying Ellen Taylor in Blackburn in 1908. There is a record of a Fred Hubberstey born in 1912 (mother's maiden name Taylor). Fred is a relatively unusual Hubberstey name, but we have seen it before in this line of the family.

See also the discussion of Frederick Hubberstey above (Part 1).


John

Preston

Preston

1891

7


John was the son of John (b.1862) - see below. He died at Ypres in 1914. There is an entry Here

John Hubberstey

Son of Councillor (later Alderman) John Hubberstey, solicitor, and Mrs Hubbertsey of 4 Lombard Terrace, Garstang Road

Occupation: Regular Soldier

Private 8141, “C” Company 2nd Battalion Scots Guards

Died 26 October 1914 aged 23

Menin Gate Panel 11

Other Details: Death Notices LDP 2 December 1914; PG 5 December 1914. Report PG 15 December 1914. Educated at St Bede’s College, Manchester and Preston Catholic College. Left in 1909 and worked in father’s office. Joined the Army in 1910 and went to Belgium with the first draft of Scots Guards. Killed by a shell at an exposed farmhouse during a heavy bombardment while the German Army tried to break through to Calais. Others were injured, mutilated and energised, but JH was said to be unmarked at the time of death. Contract with the Army should have expired in January 1915. Contributions to PWMF from Alderman H, Mrs H, William H, Robert H, James H at the above address.(H)



John

Preston

Preston

1890

8


John was the son of the brother (John) of the James Hubberstey that we think headed to America. Interestingly there is a record of a J Hubberstey, born 1890 going to Montreal, Canada in 1958 by boat (possibly on his way to the US).

By process of elimination again we need to consider the possibility that he married Sarah Hindle in Preston in 1917. (From 1901 to 1924 there are only 2 marriages listed for John Hubberstey). I have though not been able to find any birth records for this couple. Adding a bit of support to this idea is a trip by a Sarah Hubberstey (b.1895) to the USA in 1925 (from passenger lists).

John

Blackburn

Blackburn

1873

1


This one is also uncertain. John looks to have married a Dorothy Pym in 1894 and had a daughter Janet (b.1895). There was no record of his spouse on the 1901 census, though there is a death record for a Dorothy Hubberstey, age 39, in 1907.

As Janet is a very rare Hubberstey name, we can follow Janet and see a possible marriage to Robert Haworth in 1916 in Blackburn.


John

Preston

Preston

1862

7


John married Jane Ellen Gregson in 1885. More details HERE - See "John".


Joseph

Preston

Aston Under Lyme

1887

8


Again using process of elimination, we have Joseph likely having married Ann Moss in Preston in 1913, with a son, Joseph, being born in 1914. There is also a record of a Josephine being born in 1928.


Joseph

Bolton

Bolton

1877

1


Joseph was a bit of the black sheep of the family. He apparently died falling off the second level of a tram - story is Here.

Joseph

Preston

Preston

1872

7


Joseph married Ellen Graham in 1892. They had 4 children listed in the 1901 census including a son, William, B.1900. Subsequent to the census we have records of 4 more children: Winifred (b.1903), James (1908), Jessie (b.1910), and Theresa (b.1910).

Ralph

Preston

Preston

1868

7


I could not find any records related to Ralph.

Reuben

Preston

Preston

1877

8


We have Reuben Hubberstey marrying Alice Robinson in 1903. For the Hubbersteys that I have tracked in the post-1901 period, this couple had the most children, 7. They were John (b.1904), Ellen (b.1905), Mary Winifred (b.1907), Joseph (1910), Alice (b.1913), Robert Gerrard (b.1914) and Alice (b. 1920).

And, because I have only ever found one Robert Gerrard Hubberstey, it is very likely that Robert Gerrard married Margaret Waering in 1946 in Preston. By the same token it looks like Mary Winnifred married Lawrence James Butterill in Preston in the same year.

Richard

Preston

Preston

1863

8


Richard was married to Lucy Caroline Snelham, but I have not been able to find records of any children - except there were two records of births to a maiden name "Snailham" (Ellen b.1888, and Margaret b.1891) - which is possible, though they do not show up in the 1901 census. It looks like Richard died in Preston in 1907.

Richard H

Blackpool

Bury

1875

1


Richard Herbert married Jane Morris in 1903 in Old Flyde/Blackpool. We have records of 4 children: Arthur (b.1903), Thomas (b.1904), Alice Morris (b. 1906) and Bernard (b.1913). From the death records it looks as if Arthur and Bernard both died in their first year.

This does though leave us with a question. We also have a marriage of Arthur W. Hubberstey to Gladys Newman in Dec, 1919. Obviously it can not be the Arthur above, but I have not come across any other Arthur Hubbersteys. The only other possibility is that the "W" signals that perhaps his first name was William (and not Arthur) on the birth records.

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