Friday, December 25, 2009

William, son of Robert and Mary (Line 1A)

William Hubberstey (son of Robert Hubberstey and Mary Culcheth)

We know from the previous post that William married Mary Eccles of Alston on December 2, 1732 and together they had 4 children; Robert, Elizabeth (1742), Dorothy, and Mary (Jan 6, 1745). We also know that Mary Eccles died Jan 23, 1745 less than 3 weeks after the birth of her daughter Mary (so likely due to complications from childbirth).

We know that William died in 1771 so unless he was unusually long lived we can guess that his birth date would have been in the 1700 to 1710 area. He then would have been between 22 and 32 when he married, which would be consistent with the late marriage dates for others at the time. To add to this we know that his mother died of extreme old age in 1764, so she was probably born around 1775-1785, which would seem to tie in.

Finally there is also a small mystery. There is an "unsolved" birth from this era at Brindle. There is the birth of a William Huberche (Hubberstey) on Oct 11, 1754 to a William and Elizabeth Huberche. Now Brindle was not a big place at the time (or now) and there is no other record of a William Hubberstey so one theory would be that William (married to Mary Eccles) remarried after Mary's death and had another son William. This would fit with the naming convention as William and Mary's first son was Robert and had they had a second son it likely would have been named William (after its father). I have never found any other references to William, but he is another possible source for other Hubbersteys in the area by the time we get to the late 1700's.

Many of the Brinfdle/Samlesbury records can be found online HERE. Note though that the Hubberstey spelling is very varied, ranging from Huberche to Hubbischy to Hubberstey. The book, in the introduction,  notes that for 13 birth records 15 different spellings of Hubberstey are used!

The Children of William and Mary:

Elizabeth: married John Wilcock in Feb 11, 1767, one day before her brother Robert married Mary Watson. According to the register referenced above (page 21) John Wilcock became a land surveyor and estate agent to the Duke of Devonshire's local property and had a son William who married a Mary Brown and had a son Edward who became a solicitor in Preston and published some poems.

From the records (there are not that many Wilcocks)  it also looks like Elizabeth may have died Jan 18, 1780 after the birth of her daughter Elizabeth born Jan 11, 1780. It appears she did have another son, John born April 21, 1776 and daughters Cicely born in 1774 and Ann born 1769.

Dorothy: married Edward Simpson in 1760.

Mary: married George Turner of Goosnargh. They had a son William who in turn was the father of Bishop William Turner, born 1799. Bishop William Turner was ordained the Bishop of Salford in 1851.

Robert : (d. 1794) married Mary Watson  on Feb 12, 1767. They had 8 children, including 7 boys, all of whom seem to have survived into adulthood! The children were William, John (1774), Thomas (1778), James (1780), Edmund (1782), Richard (1788), Robert, and Catherine. Of these 8 children we can trace descendants to current times for at least 4 so far (William, Thomas, James and Robert).  I will look at the descendants of these sons separately. Daughter Catherine also married (to George Teebay)

The children of Robert and Mary:

I will briefly summarize what we know about Cathrine and the three sons that did not appear to marry and then provide links to the longer posts on the sons whose lines extend to today.

1. Catherine. Catherine (b. 1772, d. Oct 28, 1847) married George Teebay on June 23, 1806. Apparently a number of well known priests had in the past come from the Teebay Family. George and Catherine appear to have had 3 children: Robert (b. Oct 7, 1808), James (b. Jan 10, 1810), and Richard (b. May 16, 1812, d. 1885).

Son James married a Mary Clarkson and had 8 children, but at least 4 died in infancy (three of them in the same year, 1847 ... which is also the year Catherine died). The four surviving children were Catherine (b. 1840), George (b, 1849), John (b. 1851), Jane (b. 1853).

In the course of research on this line a number of interesting points came up. First, in the 1841 census there was a 15 year old Helen Hubberstey living with Catherine and her son Richard (apparently as a servant). So far I have not found out who Helen Hubberstey is the child of. Second, Catherine passes away in Fernyhalgh, site of the other cluster of Hubbersteys, even though she originally was from Samlesbury. Third, George, the son of James and Mary, may have been the parish priest of St. Gregory's in Weld Bank in the late 1890's and early 1900's.

Finally, for some reason as yet unknown, the name "Catherine" becomes very common from this point on. Many Hubberstey families name their first daughter Catherine. One can but wonder whether it is this Catherine that is the reason behind this, and if so, what kind of person must she have been to generate this respect.

2. Richard b, 1788, 
3. Edmund b, 1782,
4. John, 1774
These sons were all farmers that appear not to have married. For a while Richard lived with Edmund at Cuckoo Hall, Dilworth, Ribchester, and then later he lived with John at Hubberstey Fold, Balderstone (with Sowerbutts living next door on both sides). By 1861 he was living with Mary Grimbaldeston and her family at Hubberstey Fold. Mary was the daughter of James Hubberstey and Anna Swarbrick (see  the link to James below).

It appears that one night in 1846 Richard and Edmund had a bit of a problem at Cuckoo Hall.
MURDEROUS OUTRAGE AND EXTRAORDINARY DEFENCE.—In the township of Dilworth, some eight or ten miles from Preston, there is a house known by the name of Cuckoo Hall, which is occupied by two brothers, Richard and Edmund Hubbersty, the only other inmate being a housekeeper. During the night, at twelve o'clock, Richard Hubbersty was awoke from sleep by the barking of the dog, (whose watchfulness had been excited by the sudden bursting open of the house door and the entrance of three strange men,) and he at once went down stairs, when he was instantly savagely set upon by three ruffians. Being a powerful man, he returned the blows dealt to himself with good interest to his assailants, but was compelled afterwards to call out for the assistance of his brother, and he was promptly with him to take a willing and active part in the murderous struggle. The two brothers continued the battle for more than half an hour. The two gallant defenders succeeded in expelling by force the three miscreants from the house, and closing the door upon them. But the men renewed the attack, and again forced the door, and gained admission into the house; death -dealing blows were commenced, and continued till the worn-out strength of the Hubberstys compelled them to express their readiness to give up all the money they possessed, or any other property that might be demanded. These terms were, however, for some time disregarded, and the brutal punishment was continued until the three robbers became satisfied that no risk or danger could possibly result from their showing forbearance; and then only was it that they consented to allow their exhausted victims to show them up stairs, there to surrender whatever money they might be possessed of, the whole amount being under 51.

8. Robert - married Cicley Fazackerly

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